Bug 332 - ESA-CA-03 Make reference to DOI
Summary: ESA-CA-03 Make reference to DOI
Status: RESOLVED CHANGE AGREED
Alias: None
Product: OAIS June 2012
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Section 1: Introduction (show other bugs)
Version: June 2012
Hardware: No All
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Assignee: David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org)
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Depends on: 329
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Reported: 2021-02-15 13:24 UTC by David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org)
Modified: 2021-04-06 14:03 UTC (History)
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Organisation of the submitter: ESA (Christophe Arviset submitted by David Giaretta)
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Explanation of the reason for the suggested change:
Reference to DOIs


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Description David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org) 2021-02-15 13:24:17 UTC
DIgital Object Identifiers (DOIs, https://www.doi.org) are now widely spread to ensure long term preservation of Digital Objects.
It would be useful that OAIS mentions them in the terminology section and potentially in other sections.
Comment 1 David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org) 2021-02-15 13:54:50 UTC
Perhaps this should go into Annex B, where it states:

Because of the dynamic nature of this material it is impossible to keep it up to date within a standard. A document is available at https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS-general/OAIS-RelationshipWithOtherStandardsOrEfforts.pdf  holding information similar to that which was previously included in this informative annex.
Comment 2 Eld Zierau (elzi@kb.dk) 2021-02-24 06:31:09 UTC
DOIs are an attemp to solve web references. They are not more persistent than how well the provider of the DOI maintain them, and expose them. For instance the DOI handbook redirects to the newest version of the handbook. Furthermore, the DOI relies on the DOI.org to exists. 
On this background, I will strongly recommend that DOIs are not mentioned in OAIS. I would not recommend them to be in the annex either. The question is whether DOIs can be used for preservation of archived material at all.
Comment 3 David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org) 2021-03-08 14:20:08 UTC
(In reply to Eld Zierau from comment #2)
> DOIs are an attemp to solve web references. They are not more persistent
> than how well the provider of the DOI maintain them, and expose them. For
> instance the DOI handbook redirects to the newest version of the handbook.
> Furthermore, the DOI relies on the DOI.org to exists. 
> On this background, I will strongly recommend that DOIs are not mentioned in
> OAIS. I would not recommend them to be in the annex either. The question is
> whether DOIs can be used for preservation of archived material at all.

I certainly agree with there are real issues with DOIs over the long term, and we should not simply say that DOIs are guaranteed to be persistent.
The question to my mind is whether there is anything useful we can say in OAIS.
For example we have the preservation option of handing over the archive holdings to another archive.
Would it make sense to say something in general about Persistent Identifiers (see http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=329) for example we could add as a note:

"Persistent Identifier resolution services cannot be guaranteed to persist. The Archive should evaluate what the options are if the resolver service ceases to operate. The archive may also consider using multiple alternative Persistent Identifier systems for an object."
Comment 4 Mark Conrad (mark.conrad.iso@gmail.com) 2021-03-08 16:16:40 UTC
(In reply to David Giaretta from comment #3)
> (In reply to Eld Zierau from comment #2)

> For example we have the preservation option of handing over the archive
> holdings to another archive.
> Would it make sense to say something in general about Persistent Identifiers
> (see http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=329) for example we could add
> as a note:
> 
> "Persistent Identifier resolution services cannot be guaranteed to persist.
> The Archive should evaluate what the options are if the resolver service
> ceases to operate. The archive may also consider using multiple alternative
> Persistent Identifier systems for an object."

I like David's suggested text depending on where he is proposing to insert it.
Comment 5 Roberta Svanetti (roberta.svanetti@gmail.com) 2021-04-06 13:16:37 UTC
 (In reply to David Giaretta from comment #3)

I agree the David's proposed sentences.
Comment 6 David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org) 2021-04-06 14:03:10 UTC
(In reply to Roberta Svanetti from comment #5)
>  (In reply to David Giaretta from comment #3)
> 
> I agree the David's proposed sentences.